Talk: Shogun

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Generally, though not technically, it is used in reference to western military leaders of past and present from, for example, Carl von Clausewitz and Erwin Rommel, to Tommy Franks.

Is that so? We don't have to cover minor usage of an English word shogun. -- Taku 02:29, Oct 19, 2003 (UTC)

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I think the word "overcomes" (in "great generalissimo who overcomes the barbarians" ) sounds too passive to be a translation of "征夷"). "Raids" might be more appropriate.