Talk: New York Post
From open-encyclopedia.com - the free encyclopedia.
Note: A fresh start, using the more serious material, including newspaper history, etc, from this entry, for your editing consideration, is being worked on at New York Post/re-edit. Please help pull this into shape. --Wetman 12:45, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
| Contents |
NPOV?
Particularly in this section: "The Post never affects a dispassionate tone that sometimes falsely imply an objectivity and thoroughness. Its sports section has won universal praise for its comprehensiveness." The first sentence is poorly phrased and sounds like praise. I'm just not sure if the second section is true, though I doubt it. Mariko
The whole article gives the impression -- or at least justifies my preexisting impression -- that the Post is unreliable as a news source. Are there any defenders? ♥ «Charles A. L.» 15:04, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)
Militant?
What would you expect from a newspaper controlled by Rupert Murdoch? It called the French "frogeating weasels": "WAR ON WEASEL WARES"; Mar 18, 2003; BILL HOFFMANN while the british Rupert Murdoch-controlled tabloid The Sun pictured French President Jacques Chirac as a worm on its frontpage. Meanwhile, the French newspaper Libération is characterized as "militant" in its article... Get-back-world-respect 15:09, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
POV and then some
Now don't get me wrong. I hate the Post just as much as the next guy, and one of the few times I've seen it was the day after US forces took Baghdad. I remember the editorial was titled "Now onto Paris." So clearly this paper is crap.
That said, I don't think that should be stated so harshly in the article.
Agree, this needs serious re-write.
I am happy not to do it though. I'm in enough trouble. Reithy 12:29, Oct 24, 2004 (UTC)
Trying to NPOV this
It's hard to say that a piece of crap may or not be crap. I'll need lots of help in doing it. After all, I didn't make up – Wikipedia didn't make up – HEADLESS BODY FOUND IN TOPLESS BAR or name Gephardt as Kerry's running mate. Rlquall 05:22, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Well, that's my (very weak) shot. In our defence, I will say that the Wikipedia article on Pol Pot is not really equally derisive and lauding; he comes off rather poorly. Some things just can't be polished up. Rlquall 05:46, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- A good example of a fake-"NPOV" entry on a similar subject is at National Enquirer. You wouldn't want to imitate that, would you? Perhaps you would... The "N" in NPOV doesn't mean "No" point-of-view. The mild and mainstream POV in this present entry has reflected the Posts own self-image too. --Wetman 17:54, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Daily News
Is it worth mentioning that the Post and the Daily News are very similar papers, format-wise, yet the Daily News does not suffer the reputation of the Post? Is the Daily News as outwardly conservative as the Post?
- In New York, newspapers are judged on thoroughness and accuracy of coverage, quality of photos and writing, completeness of sports coverage, personalities of columnists. The orthodoxy of the spin is not generally as important as it is in the bush. --Wetman 23:54, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- As a "bush-dweller" who has been a few places, is this submitted as an endorsement of the premise that the Daily News is more thorough and accurate in coverage, has higher quality of photos generally, and better sports coverage? Is the Daily News largely lower-profile that the Post here in the sticks mostly because of the fact that it isn't owned by the Murdoch organization, and not flogged to the masses as frequently for that reason? Rlquall 18:34, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- No endorsements at Wikipedia, to preserve NPOV. I characterized the criteria of NYC newspaper-readers, a diminished audience. The readership of the Daily News is blue-collar, sports-minded and with a largely local news-horizon. The readership has shrunk. The News is indeed more notorious than the Post, and the Wikipedia entry should note that. The issues raised about this entry are largely spurious. --Wetman 22:30, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
