Talk: History of Russia
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the U.S. Dept of State has some info on the history of Russia which is in the public domain and so freely available for reuse. To say that I'm not qualified to integrate it with the existing articles is an understatement. Koyaanis Qatsi
Why is Warsaw Pact part of the series? It was just an alliance, not an historical era. It also lacks a series table. --Jiang 09:45, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Furthermore, Tsar is about a position and title, and also does not belong. --Jiang 16:30, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I added a link to Peter the Great and the Russian Empire, which hadn't been worked on in more than a year and was linked only from Imperial Russia. Quite possibly its content should be merged into another article (perhaps into Peter the Great, but for now I figured I'd link it here so that people would actually see it. Isomorphic 04:39, 9 Feb 2004 (UTC)
The article is not consistent with other acticles on the similar topics. Strange accents in Kievan Rus section. Drbug 11:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Lofty Icelandic knowledge
I've seen a quote here that attributes some lofty knowledge about Rus' to Icelanders and writers of Runic stones. I've never heard this before. Does anyone have a reference to this? Because if they do, I'd like to get it for my collection. The qoute is reproduced below.
The earliest Slavic state in the region was that of the Kievan Rus. Ancient Icelandic sagas and runestones call the Russian territory "Gardariki" (Land of cities), later on known by the names of Little Russia (=Ukraine) and Great Russia. According to these sagas the country was divided into three main parts: Holmgård (Novgorod), Könugård (Kiev) and Palteskja (Polatsk).
I'm fearful that this is romanticism about "Russian history" reaching new heights (in a field where romanticism already is pretty lofty). Can someone, anyone, please, as a favor to me, prove me wrong on this one? I'd be grateful. Genyo 15:20, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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I checked the first link and all I got was a search page with multiple listings, when I wanted an historical source page.
The second was only a Wikipedia redirect site.
Can someone seriously help me and give me an historical reference? Genyo 01:07, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- (2Genyo: the ability to use search engines is REALLY important, don't miss it. — Monedula 06:24, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC))
- E.g., sagas: Hervorch.1-4 Mikkalai 01:51, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Also I suggest to search for "Garðaríki", if you want a really historical reference. Mikkalai 02:07, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Ívarr inn víðfaðmi lagði þá undir sik allt Svíaveldi. Hann vann ok Danaveldi ok Kúrland, Saxland ok Eistland ok öll austrríki allt til Garðaríkis. Hann réð ok vestra Saxlandi ok vann hlut Englands; þat er kallat Norðumbraland.
Ivar the Wide-Grip then took control of the whole of Sweden. He also won Denmark, Kurland, Saxonia and Estonia and all the eastern lands as far as Gardariki. He also ruled western Saxonia and won part of England called Northumbria.
Mikkalai 02:22, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
