Talk: Caliph
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with regard to the pro-Khomeini spin - can someone who is versed in such things verify that it is accurate?
"The holder of this title claims rulership over all Muslims. The Caliph combines four roles that are often distinct in the Western world. These roles are: Spiritual leader of Muslims, the one who guides Muslims in new matters, Religious leader of Muslims, the one who enforces Sharia, Political leader of Muslims, the one who conducts relations with other states and administers the government, Military leader of Muslims, the one who orders and conducts military affairs, in particular those regarding the conflict between dar al-Islam and dar al-Harb. In the Catholic Church, the first two are combined in the office of the Pope. The last two are combined in military dictatorships. Islam may be unique in being the only system to combine all four."
Someone needs to read about the history of the Papacy. The Papacy was once very politically involved, and we have had at least one "warrior pope". ____________________________________________________________________________
List/Table
Shouldn't we have a list that covers all Caliphs from Abubakar to Abdul Mejid II. Something like:
<List moved to main page>--iFaqeer 06:28, Sep 28, 2004 (UTC)
Hasan
Hasan is often cited as the fifth caliph in many classical sources, for example the writings of Suyuti, however in reality he didn't rule as the actual caliph. I don't know where to list him, as he is not considered one of the Khalifa Rashidun nor is he an Umayyad. DigiBullet 14:53, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I had listed him as the 5th, but someone removed him. I agree that listing him directly under "Khulfa-e-Rashidun", as I did, was not the ideal thing to do. My original intention was to have parallel table cells for overlapping or competing claims to being Caliph. I will see what I can do when I next edit the page.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 20:14, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
