Talk: Benjamin Franklin
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Max Weber quotes Franklin as the originator of the famous quote "Time is money" (in some form or other), is this correct? (Will look up the source.) Nixdorf 20:18 May 13, 2003 (UTC)
- "Remember that time is money"
- Benjamin Franklin Advice to a Young Tradesman
- Source: http://greenwich2day.com/fun-n-fact/timequotes.htm
- MB 20:29 May 13, 2003 (UTC)
- Cool! Thanks. Nixdorf 21:57 May 13, 2003 (UTC)
I don't think the information about fabricated anti-Semitism belongs in this article. These claims are little-known and rarely brought up, and out of place in an article about Benjamin Franklin. Perhaps a single sentence would be acceptable, but two paragraphs and five links is not. Given that very similar content was added to George Washington, this strikes me as an attempt by someone with an axe to grind to seek out all anti-Semitic fabricated quotes on the net and then attack their purveyors in the encyclopedia in the guise of "defending" historical figures against charges of anti-Semitism. Furthermore, it's simply inaccurate to say his image has been "tarnished" by claims of anti-Semitism, as almost no one has heard of these claims. --Delirium 03:44 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Your claims are incorrect. These farbricated quotes are very widely distributed in books, journals, pamplets and on many websites, as well as in many Usenet newsgroup postings. I can't imagine how you can claim otherwise. You really do need to do some serious research on this well-known topic. RK 20:13 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Here's the removed part:
- In recent years Franklin's image has been tarnished by anti-Semites who attempt to use his name to further their goals. Many anti-Semitic Arab and Neo-Nazi books, journals and websites offer forged "quotes" supposedly by America's founding fathers, especially George Washington and Benjamin Franklin. These supposed quotes have been debunked as forgeries by historians.
- Example of an Anti-Semitic website pushing fraudulent quotes from America's founding fathers
- Egyptian government sponsored press spreads Anti-Semitic forgeries about Washington and Franklin
- Documenting the forgery of Ben Franklin's beliefs about Jews
- Acceptance of the Anti-Semitic Franklin hoax in the Arab world today
RK - you are the one making a claim. It's simply inaccurate to say his image has been "tarnished" by claims of anti-Semitism, as almost no one has heard of these claims. Pizza Puzzle
I still hold the position that those sections should be removed completely from both articles. It's kind of sad that extremists have such a large say in the final makeup of articles, that is until they become officially "controversial". 212.127.141.173 03:02 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
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First Postmaster General?
If its undocumented, how do you know about it? ChessPlayer 02:18, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Jefferson #2 and Franklin #3 or Franklin #2 and Jefferson #3??
The honored Americans section of Talk:George Washington says that Thomas Jefferson has an honor rank of #2 and Benjamin Franklin has an honor rank of #3. However, something began to make me think that it is also possible that Franklin is #2 and Jefferson is #3. Which is correct?? (Go to the Talk:George Washington page to find out how an honor rank is defined.) 66.32.94.195 00:34, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Franklin and Deism
I was surprised that there has been no mention in the article of Franklin's view on religion. May be interesting to note, esp. since there's a perception that every white person had to be Christian in those days.
I am using the Perhaps a single sentence would be acceptable editing guideline for the fabricated quote. Ancheta Wis 08:00, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
other inventions?
On this page [1], they also list "Armonica", a musical instrument invented by Franklin. They also credit him for first mapping the Gulf Stream. Samohyl Jan 11:36, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
