Talk: Beijing
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Article says "It was known to foreigners as Peking before China standardized on Pinyin for transliteration". Isn't it still called Peking (or a variant) in some languages other than English, e.g. French? -- SJK
- My E-F dictionary says "Beijing", but I'm pretty sure "Pékin" is more common. For instance this wikipedia article and this article in Le Monde. "Běijīng" may be the standard pinyin transcription, but that doesn't obligate the whole world to use it. --Brion
- Yes, "Pékin" is still the most commonly used form in French. "Péking" was used in French until approximately the beginning of the 20th century. Germans still commonly use "Peking". -User:Olivier
Remove statements referring to Hakka. I think that pretty much every Chinese dialect except for Mandarin would use a k for a j sound. -- Roadrunner
According to CCDICT: Mandarin (Pinyin), Bei3 Jing1; Cantonese (Jyutping), Baak1 Ging1; Hakka (Lufeng), Pet7 Kin1; Taiwanese (Tongyong), Pak1 Keng1. It's most likely attributed with one of the southern dialects. -Taoster
What is the Mongolian name for Beijing during the Yuan/Mongolian Empire? --Kaihsu Tai 18:29, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC) ?? or Khanbalik
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A Little History Unknown to Many
The metropolitan area of Beijing has been settled in the first millennium BC and the capital of Kingdom Yan (燕) was established there, and named it Ji (蓟). Ji has often been claimed as the beginning of Beijing; but in reality the city has been abandoned no later than the 6th century AD. The exact location of Ji is not clear despite numerous claims of its "discoveries" in recent years. During the great Tang and Song dynasties, only townships existed in this area. By the early 10th century, Kingdom Liao set up a "secondary capital" in the city proper, and called it Nanjing ("the Southern Capital"). Jing Dynasty that annexed Liao and ruled the northern China built its capital there, called Zhongdu (中都), or "the Central Capital". The Mongol force burned Zhongdu to the ground in 1215 AD and rebuilt its own "Grand Capital" (大都) to the north of the Jin capital in 1267 AD, which is the true beginning of Beijing. In 1403 AD, the 3rd Ming emperor Zhu Li, who just grabbed the throne by killing his brother after a bloody civil war and moved the capital from southern China to his own power base in the north, renamed the city Beijing (北京), or "Northern Capital".
Oversize at 32K
My recommendation: Like I've created with the Ring Roads of Beijing and other such sub-pages, maybe we could move the Universities into such a section? I could then write something to start with (at the section on the Beijing page), such as a bit on famous universities, keep the "under the Min. of Edu." list, and move the entire list (with other entries) into the sub-pages.
As this is a big overhaul and affects stuff I (DF08) did not write, I'd like to gauge consensus before moving the whole thing. If within about a week there is no opposition or if I get a response to the tune of "do it", I'm going ahead; or someone else may take the lead ahead of time.
--DF08 20:46, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)
Go right ahead. Colipon 02:34, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
map
I am going to make similar district map of Beijing that I did of Shanghai (see different districts) using several scanned tourist maps as a base. Any comments? if not, maps will appear here sometime.
Architecture -- image problems
Some images appear in such a way that one picture occupies a whole new line, while two others get a new line on its own too. There's like an unneeded line; three pictures that could appear on one line now take up two lines. If anyone could get this sorted I'd appreciate it deeply -- I wish that space was used properly on the page. Thanks. --DF08 (English) 13:14, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
