Talk: Airship

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This page is redundant. The page for "dirigible" has all of the same information and is a more formal term. This page also has some information that is duplicated on the "hindenberg disaster" page.

This page should be reduced to just a reference to the "dirigible" entry.

Hi # 24.91.229.111. I saw you did that earlier. Are they exact synonyms? If so, you're right, we should merge. I reverted your edit earlier because the content from here needs to be merged by hand into the other page -- Tarquin 22:15 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)

No, they are not exact synonyms. On the contrary, there are several types of airship that are not dirigibles - notably blimps and balloons. This doesn't have to mean that the airship page should not go, however. There used to be a page on airplane/aeroplane (which was frequently renamed back and forth as US English and International English speakers argued the term) and this was reduced to a redirect and the content incorporated in aircraft. Even though a simple redirect to dirigible is inappropriate, I think there is a case for treating this in the same way as we treated airplane/aeroplane. Tannin 22:23 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)

<POV mode> yeah but that was just plain wrong </POV mode> Mintguy

-- Hmm. I believe that I merged the content before reducing the "airship" page. That said, I have never heard anyone in the business use the term "airship" to include balloons. The distinction between the propelled and non-propelled craft is pretty standard. Do you have a reference?

-- Ah, I see the confusion now. Tannin is confusing dirigible with rigid airship. In fact, blimps and rigid airships are types of airships. See the dirigible page for details.

I don't know enough about this subject to be sure what's what. However, having a large "tree" of links at the top of several articles is a bad idea. Is there one term which encompases all of these? If so, let's make that a "parent" article, and the others can say "a foo is a type of [ [ bar ] ] ..." -- Tarquin 20:12 Jan 23, 2003 (UTC)

-- I'm pretty sure of the classifications. So, unless I hear otherwise, I'll consolidate under "airship" since it is the common terms. The term 'dirigible' is a technical term based on a french word. So I'll leave a pointer from "dirigible" to "airship" with an explanation of "dirigible's" french origin.

The "See also" list was there when I first started working on this page. I'll try to make the "airship" page more conforming. Blimpguy Thu Jan 23 21:08:25 GMT 2003

I've looked this up; my dictionary agrees with you, digigible & airship are synonyms. Best to make D. a redirect, merge th econtent, and explain the alternative name here. I've rewritten the opener to explain the terminology, please check for factual accuracy. the rest needs a merge; I've just done a paste -- Tarquin 11:14 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

The Airship Association has long and wide experience of the use of the word 'airship'. It is by far the most commonly used word when talking about powered-lighter-than-air flight. This page should stay and links to other similar words, such as dirigible and blimp should indicate that 'airship' is the best term. Secretary - The Airship Association - 26th January 2004.

Merge with Blimp  ? Airships tend to be manned. Blimps tend to be unmanned.--Jondel 07:27, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)